Bibi Part II: duress or no duress, Bibi is talking such vacuous nonsense. Bibi, who gave you the right to squander our inheritance and endanger Jewish lives once again? WE KNOW THEY ARE THREATENING YOUR LIFE, WE ARE WITH YOU. BUT YOU MUST STAND FIRM, YOU MUST!

Bibi's Speech at Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations,  Wednesday,July 7th, 2010, New York

Thanks to Nurit.

What is Bibi saying: HE WANTS A U.N. WITH TEETH! Whose language is that, please tell me? WHO coined that phrase first? Isn't it exactly the content, and the exact same words, of the pope's encyclical, CARITAS IN VERITATE? This is one more proof to me that Bibi is being GUIDED AND INFLUENCED BY ROME, whether via Obama or not, whether by Ban-Ki Moon or not, whether by a message from Rome or not, whether under duress or not,  and whether his life is being threatened or not.

See also:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/138492

Make sure to also read:

http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/2010/07/bibi-enigma-was-getting-us-all-confused.html

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This is a short clip of what happened in front of the CFR on Thursday. Demonstration and counter-demonstration, with Neturei Karta as usual featured prominently together with Arabs and other die-hard antisemites.

It is really a shame that those Neturei Karta give all of the Haredim a bad name, because they dress alike. Most Haredim would never, ever say "God damn Israel".

I am also opposed to the government, I also want to see it destroyed and replaced by a righteous government, and of course, Bibi's words do not reflect my views, just as they do not reflect Israel's Jewish population views, of course, since he is speaking for the PTB , the CFR, and their handlers above them; but would I even DREAM of standing on the other side of the street? Don't these evil people know what that represents?

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To get back to the previous day, Wednesday....




....Of course he went to the United Nations, meeting with  Ban Ki-Moon ( 2 days AFTER the queen's visit). What do you think: WAS there , or WASN'T there , a message for Bibi from the queen,  with other words from Benedikt?

"Prime Minister Netanyahu addressed national Jewish leaders, as well as political, civic and business leaders, at a meeting Wednesday in New York, sponsored by the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. Earlier he had met with UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon after conducting talks with U.S. President Barack Obama in Washington. (INN)"

To be noted that 7/7 is also the anniversary of the London bombing, and I can understand Queen Elizabeth II honoring that day. She did that by visiting the World Trade Center and laying a wreath there. But I have a couple of questions: why come to the U.S. to commemorate a strictly British disaster? And what does going to the United Nations headquarters have to do with that? The answer is: absolutely nothing. She specifically chose the U.N. because that is what the headquarters of the PTB, i.e. Rome, had decided. She could also have gone to the United Nations in Geneva, Switzerland, for instance, which is much closer to her home; I am sure  Ban-Ki Moon would have made the effort to meet her there: why did she have to come specifically to New York, which is a much more difficult trip for an 84 year old lady, in 105 degree weather? There is no doubt that she came to the U.S. on a MISSION: she came to the U.S. because Bibi was also scheduled to be there at the exact same time, so that a message could be relayed to him - via the United Nations. Bibi's visit was also obviously timed for 7/7; she came a day before, and symmetrically, he came a day after. The timing of this visit was scheduled deliberately for the anniversary of Caritas in Veritate, when Benedikt originally declared his intention of a "U.N. with teeth," that is, a U.N. willing to use military force, ANY force, to achieve the pope's goal: the Holy Roman Empire, with its capital in Jerusalem.

NOTICE THAT BIBI'S MEEK SPEECH AT THE PRESIDENT'S CONFERENCE HAPPENED  AFTER HIS MEETING AT THE UNITED NATIONS. Was he handed a special letter there? I wonder. It would not be unusual for the pope to do that.

NOW WE UNDERSTAND BIBI'S MEEK , BLAND AND DILUTED POSTURE WHEN SPEAKING TO THE JEWS.

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And this is what Bibi said at the CFR on Thursday.

He basically toed the line of "two states for two people", despite standing firm on settlement freeze. Time will tell; apparently a secret agreement was made between Bibi and Obama to not permit further construction anyway, but it was done via the back door, not in an official statement.

Netanyahu at CFR: Israel won't extend construction freeze; We've done enough,Let's get on with the talks"

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Thursday that Israel would not extend a construction moratorium in the West Bank past September and that he believed a peace agreement with the Palestinians could be reached within a year.

"I think we've done enough. Let's get on with the talks," he said, when asked in an appearance at the Council on Foreign Relations whether he would extend the limited freeze he put in place to coax the Palestinians into peace negotiations.

At the forum, Netanyahu repeated a call to the Palestinians to move from indirect talks that began in May under US mediation to face-to-face negotiations on statehood.

"I think we should seize the moment. And it is a challenging moment and an important moment. We have the ability to negotiate a peace," Netanyahu said at the international affairs think tank in New York.

"And I'm prepared to take risks," Netanyahu added, while stressing that would not entail any move that could jeopardize Israel's security.

"But we have to get on with it. We should just stop all the delays and start now, next week, in two weeks - get the talks going. Because only if we start them, we can complete them."

Netanyahu said he intended "to confound the skeptics and critics." But he added: "I need a partner."

"I'd like President Abbas to make, if not his Bar-Ilan speech, I'd like to hear the Bir Zeit speech in which he says these things very clearly. And I'd like to meet him and make peace"


The future of settlements, he said, would be addressed in the so-called final status talks with the Palestinians.

On the subject of Iran and its uranium enrichment program, which Israel regards as a grave threat, Netanyahu was supportive of recent Obama administration moves. "The statement that the president has made that all options are on the table is probably the most effective pressure that you could direct at Iran," Netanyahu said, addressing the possibility of using military force to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. "They have in the past backed off when they thought the U.S. would act in a more forceful way."

Addressing recent strains in U.S.-Israel relations, Netanyahu emphasized Israel's strategic value to the United States. "In the heart of the Middle East, Israel is the source of the greatest stability," he said, "the service that Israel does in the Middle East is below the swirl of public debate, is real and much appreciated by the governments that are actually acting to stabilize the Middle East, chief among them the United States."

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.... And THIS will be the result of Bibi's visit to Washington and New York; whether under duress or of his own free will , the result will be the same. As far as I know, if a Jew is faced with his own death, or murder of another Jew, he has to choose death. Not so Bibi....

...MORE DEAD JEWS....



Photo by: Associated Press

Goodwill moves likely upon PM’s return

By YAAKOV KATZ , Jerusalem Post
07/09/2010 04:36

Gestures may include releasing prisoners, security transfer to PA.

The Defense Ministry is drafting a comprehensive list of confidence-building measures that it anticipates it will be asked to implement after Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu returns to Israel on Friday from his meeting with US President Barack Obama, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

It has not been decided if the measures will be taken only following an announcement on the opening of direct negotiations with the Palestinian Authority, which Netanyahu has said will likely begin in the coming weeks, or will be initiated sooner, as part of an Israeli and American effort to get the PA to sit down at the negotiating table.

Gestures may include releasing prisoners, lifting roadblocks, security transfer to PA

The gestures under consideration include the release of Palestinian prisoners from Israeli jails, the lifting of IDF roadblocks in the West Bank and the transfer of security authority over Palestinian towns in the West Bank to PA security forces.

On Monday, Defense Minister Ehud Barak met with PA Prime Minister Salam Fayyad in Jerusalem, in the first high-level meeting between top officials from the sides in about a year.

A senior defense official said that Fayyad urged Barak to move forward with the confidence-building measures and to include an Israeli commitment not to deport Hamas legislators from Jerusalem.

Four Hamas-affiliated Palestinian Legislative Council members currently face expulsion from Jerusalem. One of them, Muhammad Abu Tir, is in police custody for refusing to leave the city in late June, shortly after he was released from jail after serving close to four years.

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UPDATE:

And did you see this? Clearly foul play,  happening AFTER HIS VISIT TO THE UNITED NATIONS, AND AFTER THE PRESIDENTS' CONFERENCE. WHAT COULD BE A CLEARER MESSAGE? Please use translater in the sidebar for translation.

BIBI CAUGHT IN THE ELEVATOR WITH HIS WHOLE CREW AND HIS WIFE FOR HALF AN HOUR. He was sent through the service elevator. Remember, the ambient temperature was 105 degrees Fahrenheit the day before, and still very hot.


http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/130/390.html

מתח בניו יורק: נתניהו ושרה נתקעו במעלית

המעלית ב"פלאזה" נתקעה כשבני הזוג נתניהו שהו בה. שרה: "ביבי נחלץ ממקומות מסובכים יותר". רה"מ: לחסוך במילים, צריך את החמצן"

מיה בנגל, וושינגטון | 9/7/2010 7:32

להיתקע במעלית בניו יורק זו יכולה להיות חוויה מלחיצה למדי. שלשום (ד') זה קרה לראש הממשלה בנימין נתניהו ולרעייתו, שרה. 

בני הזוג באווירה רגועה יותר צילום: עמוס בן גרשום, לע''מ

לאחר שראש הממשלה סיים את נאומו בפני חברי ועידת הנשיאים במלון פלאזה, מן המפוארים שבמלונות ניו יורק, הובילו אותו ואת רעייתו אנשי היחידה לאבטחת אישים למעלית צדדית, המשמשת כמעלית שירות. לאחר שכולם נכנסו לתוכה יצאה המעלית לדרכה ולאחר דקה נעצרה ונתקעה.

המאבטחים נלחצו שמא מדובר באיזושהי מזימה, אולם התאמצו לשמור על קור רוח. בשלב מסוים אמרה שרה בבדיחות דעת: "ביבי יודע להיחלץ ממקומות מסובכים יותר".

גורם שנתקע באותה מעלית סיפר כי נתניהו לא צחק, אלא שמר על ארשת פנים רצינית והאיץ במאבטחים לנסות ולפתור את הבעיה. המאבטחים השיבו: "אנחנו מחפשים דרך לצאת מפה".

"ראש הממשלה שמר על קור רוח"

נתניהו השיב, ספק בצחוק ספק ברצינות: "אתם לא מחפשים, אתם מוצאים. ובינתיים אני מציע לא להילחץ ולא להכביר במילים, אנחנו צריכים את החמצן".

רק לאחר כחצי שעה הצליחו המאבטחים, בסיוע קציני הביטחון של המלון, לשחרר את המעלית ולפתוח את דלת המתכת.

גורם דיפלומטי בכיר בניו יורק אישר את פרטי האירוע
וציין: "ראש הממשלה שמר על קור רוח", אולם לפי הגרסה הנפוצה יותר, דווקא שרה נתניהו שמרה על קור רוח וחוש הומור, בעוד שבעלה, יוצא סיירת מטכ"ל, דווקא נלחץ.

נתן אשל, ראש הסגל במשרד ראש הממשלה, ששהה גם הוא במעלית התקועה, אמר: "אילו היו בידי נתניהו כלי פריצה, הוא בוודאי היה מצליח לצאת מזה".

Thanks to E.

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And now the REAL results: amazing what a few threats on one's life can do:

 

Netanyahu hints at flexibility on Jerusalem

By Uriel Heilman · July 7, 2010

NEW YORK (JTA) -- It was an otherwise wholly unremarkable stump speech before a friendly audience in New York.

On Wednesday evening at Manhattan’s Plaza Hotel, the Israeli prime minister addressed a roomful of more than 300 Jews on

the subjects of Iran, his government’s eagerness for direct peace talks with the Palestinians and the swell meeting he had just

had with President Obama at the White House.

But then, in an off-the-cuff remark to a question on Jerusalem from the audience, Benjamin Netanyahu dropped a hint that his

government’s insistence on Israeli sovereignty over all of Jerusalem might not be ironclad.

“Everybody knows that there are Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem that under any peace plan will remain where they are,”

Netanyahu said in response to the question read by the executive vice chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major

American Jewish Organizations, Malcolm Hoenlein.

The implication of Netanyahu’s remark -- that other neighborhoods of Jerusalem may not remain “where they are,” becoming

part of an eventual Palestinian state -- was the first hint that the Israeli leader may be flexible on the subject of Jerusalem. Until

now, Netanyahu has insisted that Jerusalem is not up for negotiation.

While the prime minister surely did not intend the gathering under the aegis of the Presidents Conference to serve as his forum

for opening up negotiations over Jerusalem, the impromptu remark before an audience of prominent New York Jews and a

handful of elected officials cast a slim ray of light on what Netanyahu thinks might be the Israeli capital’s ultimate fate.

It was significant as well because Netanyahu’s true intentions regarding the peace process remain largely opaque, the subject

of much debate from Washington to Ramallah. Netanyahu was a latecomer to the two-state position -- endorsing the idea of an

eventual Palestinian state only a year ago, after much prodding by the United States -- and the governing coalition he has

assembled is comprised largely of right-wing parties that do not believe in the current Palestinian Authority as a partner for

negotiations.

In public, President Obama declared Tuesday that he believes Netanyahu is genuinely committed to seeking a two-state

solution.

“I believe that Prime Minister Netanyahu wants peace. I think he’s willing to take risks for peace,” Obama told reporters following

his Oval Office meeting with Netanyahu. “And during our conversation, he once again reaffirmed his willingness to engage in

serious negotiations with the Palestinians around what I think should be the goal not just of the two principals involved but the

entire world, and that is two states living side by side in peace and security.”

Privately, however, some U.S. administration officials have expressed doubts about Netanyahu’s ability to make good on that

vision. Other Obama supporters have questioned Netanyahu's commitment to that goal, and the Palestinian Authority

leadership says Netanyahu’s interest in negotiations is not serious.

“Words, not deeds,” was the assessment of chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat, who dismissed Netanyahu’s lip service to

the peace process in an interview Tuesday with The New York Times. “We need to see deeds.”

Netanyahu insists he is serious about peace talks, and that it is the Palestinians who are playing games.

“You either put up excuses or you lead," the Israeli leader said in his New York speech. "I want to enter direct talks with the

Palestinian leadership now,”

“I think we can defy the skeptics,” he said, recalling the doubters that abounded when Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin

began talking to Egyptian President Anwar Sadat in the lead-up to the Camp David Accords, and when Richard Nixon visited

China. “This is a challenge I’m up to.”

Was it hyperbole or a sign of the legacy Netanyahu hopes for himself?

If Netanyahu is interested in following Begin and Nixon’s model, leading a conservative government to a historic rapprochement

with a longtime foe, eventually he will have to include Jerusalem in negotiations with the Palestinians; they won't sign a peace

deal without it. If not, Netanyahu is trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the skeptics.

“This is going to be a very, very tough negotiation, but I’m prepared to negotiate,” Netanyahu insisted Wednesday. “But I cannot

engage between someone who won’t sit at the table.”

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Further Updates:

400 Rabbis to Bibi: they are saying exactly what I just said: BIBI, YOU HAVE TO STAY FIRM!

• Rabbis Show Letter from Sharon Promising Disengagement Gains

Av 4, 5770, 15 July 10 09:17

by Gil Ronen

(Israelnationalnews.com)

The Rabbinical Congress for Peace (RCP) marked the fifth anniversary of Israel's disastrous withdrawal from Gaza by publishing a letter the group received from then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon dated July 18, 2005. The Rabbis had handed Sharon a Torah Ruling against ceding land but Sharon chose to ignore it. 

"I believe that today, the benefit, peace and security of the Nation of Israel require the evacuation of the Gaza Strip, an area in which there is no chance of establishing a Jewish majority and which everyone knows will not be part of the State of Israel in a permanent accord,” Sharon wrote.

“At the same time, we are transferring the brunt of our efforts to the most important areas for safeguarding our future: the Galilee, the Negev, Greater Jerusalem, the settlement blocs and the security zones.

“I initiated the Disengagement because it is the best vehicle for a basic change in the national situation of the Jewish people. The departure from Gaza will have a decisive positive influence on all fields of life in Israel: security, economy and the quality of life in the country.”

Along with the letter from Sharon, the RCP re-published the Torah Ruling signed by almost 400 rabbis forbidding surrender of any land to foreigners. “The Disengagement proved again that the Torah Ruling against relinquishing land to enemies because it will make it easier for them to conquer the land is valid today more than ever,” the rabbinical forum said.

The Rabbis expressed their “amazement” that Israel has established various inquiry committees on different issues but “has still not found time to set up an inquiry committee to investigate the heinous crime committed by the Israeli government of uprooting thousands of Jews from their homes through a Disengagement which led to hundreds of casualties and to the deterioration of Israel’s security to an all-time low.”

Flotilla is result of retreat“We hope that the Terkel Committee that is investigating Israel’s actions in trying to impose a Gaza Strip naval blockade will also investigate the genesis of what led to this situation,” said Rabbi Avrohom Shmuel Lewin, RCP Director-General. “The Committee must investigate what caused Israel to lose its deterrence. Turkey or any other country never dared to send provocative ships against Israel in the past.”

Rabbi Joseph Gerlitzky, Rabbi of Central Tel Aviv and Chairman of the RCP, said that for the past twenty years the RCP has corresponded with and met dozens of politicians and prime ministers and presented them with the Torah Ruling against giving up land to foreigners, an act which will only weaken and harm Israel’s security. Unfortunately, he added, the consequences predicted by the Halacha (Jewish Law) materialized against the opinions of all so-called “advisers, strategists and political analysts.”

“It did not take long before everyone saw Sharon’s colossal mistake,” the RCP stated. In his letter, the rabbis added, “He wrote that the Disengagement will bring peace and prosperity to the Negev, to greater Jerusalem, to the settlement blocs , and enhance Israel’s security, and we all saw the thousands of rockets that struck the Negev, we now see the threat facing greater Jerusalem and the continuous settlement freeze and the enormous concessions in Judea and Samaria  which were a direct result of the disengagement from Gaza (and the implementation of the Oslo accords), exactly as the Rabbis warned in their Ruling based on the Jewish Code of Law.” 

'The Torah screams'“Yet there are still those don’t learn from the past and  believe that if we further concede, further withdraw, and be more flexible to U.S. demands and find favor in the eyes of the world they will fight Iran for us. The government also thinks that by begging the Palestinians to negotiate it will gain world respect and succeed in preserving Israel’s basic security needs. 

“But the Torah does not change, the Rabbis stated, “it still screams and warns that any negotiations based on withdrawing from land under Israeli control will lead to incessant bloodshed and instability in the region.” 

The RCP expressed some satisfaction over a slight resumption of building in the outskirts of Jerusalem but said this is not enough and demanded massive construction in all parts of Israel.

Rabbi Moshe Havlin, Chief Rabbi of Kiryat Gat and vice-chairman of the RCP, called on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu not to follow in the footsteps of Sharon. Rabbi Havlin warned that every day that Israel refrains from construction in Jerusalem or in Judea and Samaria displays another concession to pressure and just leads to additional demands and stronger pressure than before.

“Mr. Netanyahu, the majority of Americans lack faith in President Obama and he cannot force Israel to do anything if you say no. Mr. Obama is trying to make political gains at the expense of Israel’s security and if you stand firm without wavering, the pressure will stop,” Rabbi Havlin said.

However, Bibi , with his D.M. EHUD BARAK, is not listening to the rabbis, obviously; so now, compliments of Israel, thank you very much...

• Russia Supplying PA With 50 Armored Vehicles

Av 9, 5770, 20 July 10 04:58

(Israelnationalnews.com) Russia's Foreign Ministry said it has sent 50 armored vehicles to Jordan, for transfer to the Palestinian Authority. The vehicles will be moved over to the PA in coordination with Israel. The PA is receiving the vehicles for free. Russian army officers have already trained PA security personnel on how to use and maintain the vehicles. 

Apparently:

 ( according to SHmuel)

The Russians have been trying the same 50 APC deal for several years.  All previous governments scuttled that.

And Mordechai says:

"Thank you VERY VERY much for this heads-up; this item, taken together with the widespread attack training that we've been hearing for the past couple of days (I've checked with friends in your area as well as the rest of Yehuda/Shomron) - not only is the pattern the same everywhere, but so is the army's response; it's no longer "weddings", rather, now it's "they finished their Bagrut (senior final exams)" and are therefore shooting as an expression of unrestrained joy.  The pattern heard in the several locations I have checked is the same:  15 or 25 rounds, two minute rest, then again, continuing for one and a half to two and a half hours, mid-morning, early evening, and then again late night.  New armored vehicles together with the expenditure of ammunition that widespread training involves show a strategic commitment of resources to the first strike attack option, and are therefore key indicators of readiness for such an attack."


......And now this:

http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/2010/08/didnt-i-repeatedly-tell-you-that-turkey.html